What Obama is doing in Missouri - a theory

To distract myself from the inevitable pain that will be watching the Patriots beat the snot out of the Chiefs, I'm going to share some impressions on the ground of what is going on in Missouri and speculate as to why Obama is devoting resources to my state.

1. The McCaskill factor. She was with Obama early and strongly. She lost in 04 when she ran for governor and followed the D.C. establishment's plan for how to campaign in Missouri. And she lost to a total tool. When she ran for Senate in 06, she rejected the outsiders advice and spent an enormous amount of time and resources campaigning in out-state Missouri. She won by trimming Talent's margins in out-state. (The divide in MO is not urban vs. rural as much as KC/St.Louis/Columbia and "out-state," which represents the other half of the population and much of which manages to maintain certain "rural" attitudes despite being sizeable populations in cities full of colleges - see Springfield).

Obviously, Obama is not going to be able to campaign in out-state like McCaskill did. But I think she has convinced him that it's worth putting resources in to keep those margins slim. I also think it's worth putting the resources in looking towards governing. There are people in MO who aren't going to be comfortable voting for Obama in 08 who will be supportive of his policies once he's in office.

2. Convincing the white folks. I don't know the best way to approach this, so I'll be blunt. Missouri has some pretty deeply and oddly seeded racial politics. (The "saint" of the MO Dem party, Mel Carnahan, was doing performances in blackface in the 1960's). The most shocking thing for me in the polls I've seen is the number of undecideds. As in, the not insignificant number of MO dems who won't feel comfortable voting for a black man who have yet to jump on the McCain train. I could be wrong, and those undecideds are the religious folks who are holding back on McCain. But in my gut (sorry, no links!) I think the conservative dems are more "independent" than the religious right. I think those undecideds are more open to being convinced to vote for Obama. McCain is their default, but the reason they're undecided is because they're still looking at Obama.

I was about to type that I expect McCain to win MO, but it won't be a blowout. And then I see the Chiefs take a knock at Tom Brady's knee. Who knows what could happen?

3. McCain's ad. I've seen the "not ready to lead" ad a dozen times in the past few days and I question how effective it will be. It's not just that it's pushing a "tax and spend" message which seems unlikely to appeal to the undecideds - the polls indicate he's already tied up that vote here. It's all the old white dudes. Showing Obama working with a series of old white dudes with oatmeal faces and glasses has a potential calming effect on undecideds. A lot of people aren't even going to be able to name the politicians in that commercial. A more effective (for McCain) ad would have included Hillary Clinton, and congressmen/Senators who don't "look like us." Perversely, I don't think the ad buy will hurt Obama. (It's a rich diary for fans of unsupported speculation).

4. Lee's Summit. A few weeks ago, Obama opened a campaign office in Lee's Summit, MO, a suburb of Kansas City and a republican stronghold in heavily democratic Jackson County. No one could remember a democratic presidential campaign opening an office in Lee's Summit. It's applying the basic principle of you have to ask people for their votes. This is pretty obvious, I just mention it so you have a metric of the degree of his commitment to fight here other than campaign appearances. I think it's his 38th office in the state.

Some bonus random thoughts - it's a difficult time to be a liberal democrat in Missouri. McCaskill is conservative. Our nominee for governor (longtime AG Jay Nixon) just put out an ad campaign attacking the republican nominee and identifying himself  as a (g.d.) Independent. He doesn't even identify as a democrat in his own commercial, like it's 2002 all over again. He's been elected AG 4 times with a D next to his name. There can't be many people here who don't know he's a Dem, but he feels the need to distance himself from the party nonetheless. He's also rumored to be responsible for recruiting republican Chris Koster to switch parties. Koster is now our nominee for AG. That depressing fact is an entirely different diary.

The bottom line is that at a time where the country seems more agreeable to democratic policies, the conservative forces in the MO dem party are heading in the other direction and, arguably, just turning the dem party here into the Rockefeller Republican party. As a certain governor famously didn't say, Thanks, but no thanks. In that context, Obama opening offices and training/engaging local progressives is highly appreciated by those of us looking to the future. I don't  blame others for wondering why he's bothering with MO, but I'm terribly grateful that he is.



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Palin and McCain are in (none / 0)

Lee's Summit tomorrow.

It just seems as if Missouri got away from us this summer; Obama made twice as many visits to the state as McCain but McCain spent twice as much money on ads as Obama and that seemed to make the difference in pushing a toss-up or lean McCain into a 6 point race on average from the last three polls.

For some reason, I see Indiana as more fruitful than Missouri as crazy as that sounds.  Contrary to Jerome's assertions (though they are reasonably suported assertions), I think Obama overperformed in the Indiana primary whereas his victory in Missouri may have been due more to a failure of HRC to put adequate number of resources into the state under the assumption that city turnout wouldn't be enough to put Obama over the top in the state.


by Blazers Edge on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 02:08:41 PM EST

I guess I can mark you down (none / 0)

as believing that Obama is wasting his time putting resources in Missouri and I wasted my time writing this diary.

Sorry to be testy, but I just devoted an hour to writing that and your comment doesn't seem to engage it at all. Maybe I didn't make it clear that I understand why it doesn't look like a good use of resources to target Missouri. I was offering reasons why it might make sense and you didn't respond to those at all.

Yes, McCain and Palin are going to be in Lee's Summit tomorrow. It's a republican stronghold. She'd be put to better use in Springfield (home of cashew chicken and Assemblies of God), but for some reason they're going to Lee's Summit.

Clinton didn't fail to put more resources in Missouri, she topped out her support. She's just not that popular around here.


by Mobar on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 02:28:51 PM EST
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Not every comment refers to (2.00 / 1)

every single point that a diarist made.  People stray off topic off the time in order to make the discussion more interesting.  I apologize if you do not find my post to have "engaged" enough with your diary.

I found an article that showed McCaskill's win was due to her huge advantages among women, African-Americans, and athiests.  So I take that to mean she turned out blacks and athiests in the cities and won enough rural women against Talent?  I'll link to the article if you find yourself in a better mood for a discussion.

I agree with you about HRC not being particularly popular in MO.  Judging by the polls in the state, you could say the same thing about Obama.


by Blazers Edge on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 02:38:57 PM EST
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There was a shift in the non-religious vote. (none / 0)

McCaskill had them 70% - 28% in 04, and 78% to 18% in 06. That's probably a stem cell vote. (Blunt was in favor in 04, Talent against in 06, plus the ballot issue on stem cells in 06). Their percentage of the electorate (9%) didn't change. The dems will always have a huge advantage in the non-religious and AA vote.

And yes, the theory is that shaving off support from women in out-state is enough to create the margin of victory.

Fun with numbers here:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004//pages/ results/states/MO/G/00/epolls.0.html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/r esults/states/MO/S/01/epolls.0.html


by Mobar on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 03:17:12 PM EST
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Stem cell issue (none / 0)

Since McCain in NOT AGAINST stem cell research it may shift the vote?


by del on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 06:58:18 PM EST
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wow. (none / 0)

You really are a committed troll, aren't you?


by Mobar on Mon Sep 08, 2008 at 12:17:02 PM EST
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Re: Yes, a bit testy (none / 0)

At least Blazer's Edge didn't change the subject to football.

Now about Obama and Missouri. It is a good diary. Thanks for the effort.

There's also a lot at stake in the two House races. One is an open seat, in the region known as Little Dixie, surrounding Mark Twain's Hannibal. The other stretches from Kansas City north to St. Joseph. We have a great shot at winning both in a wave year election, and the better Obama does the better our House candidates will do. If we can win those seats, we can hold them. If we lose them, it will be a long, long time before we can make another challenge in a year as favorable to Democrats as this one.

You mentioned campaigning to govern. That includes thinking not just about this election, but the next one. Missouri has a Senate seat coming up. While I think Kip Bond is fairly popular, why not do some work this year building the kind of Democratic Party that can take that seat in 2010?

I totally agree with you that a big chunk of the Undecideds is comprised of white folks struggling to overcome a lifetime of prejudices.

Gallup identified swing voters in this election: "This year ... 28% of those 65 and older are not committed to a candidate at this point, compared with 16% of 18- to 29-year-olds, 20% of 30- to 49-year-olds, and 19% of those aged 50 to 64."

And I take this as good news. If they weren't potential Obama voters, they'd already be telling Gallup that they had decided on McCain. I mean, aside from the black thing, you know what I mean, what's to be Undecided about? So Obama may be right thinking that he can win MO. I ain't mad at him for trying.


by Woody on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 02:58:30 PM EST
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Re: Yes, a bit testy (none / 0)

"I mean, aside from the black thing, you know what I mean, what's to be Undecided about? "

- Who knows some folks might be too busy surfing the waves in the carribean to think about the election...

There are several reasons to be undecided months out aside from " the black thing "..


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by lori on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 03:04:27 PM EST
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Re: Yes, Undecided about a black man (none / 0)

The share of voters who are Undecided is half again as high among older voters. You know, the high information voters who have ample time to watch CNN all day, who have the highest rate of turnout in elections, the ones who went to school when they were all white except for that one on the other side of the tracks for the colored kids. Those older voters who report as Undecided have NOT been surfing in the Caribbean.


by Woody on Mon Sep 08, 2008 at 02:18:58 PM EST
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Are you assuming (none / 0)

that Kit Bond will retire? I'd love to see someone take a run at him, but I've seen little willingness among the democratic establishment to take a serious shot at it. He's too good at pork. I think Koster is eyeing Bond's seat.


by Mobar on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 03:07:48 PM EST
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Re: Assuming nothing (none / 0)

I do hope we have a candidate preparing to make the race. Of course, Bond will be 70 next March, and turn 71 during primary season in 2010, so he could retire. Lots of Repubs in the House seemed to find serving in the minority to be much less fun than they were used to getting out of the job. If the Democrats can win the 60 seats we need this year, even Kit Bond could get discouraged. If Democrats in Missouri can pick up two House seats this year and the Governorship AND win the state's electoral votes, Bond could get discouraged even faster.


by Woody on Mon Sep 08, 2008 at 02:27:29 PM EST
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No, Missouri should be in play (none / 0)

Someone needs to sit down and have a serious talk with Jay Nixon, though.  

Racism is no more an issue in Missouri than it is in Ohio or any other midwestern swing state. In addition, until the Reagan years, it had a strong tradition of voting Democratic.  

The state is suffering terribly. Its my home state and I just spent two weeks there last month. Those rural/small town folks are hurting. They loved FDR, they loved Harry Truman, JFK and Bill Clinton.  

I'm thinking more and more today Obama has to employ more surrogates, not just in person but in tv and radio ads.  Send Bill Clinton to Missouri and put him in some ads there.  Maybe he can talk some sense into Nixon.


by Betsy McCall on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 05:47:24 PM EST
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Hey, we knocked Brady out of the game (none / 0)

that has to count for something, right?


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by fbihop on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 02:29:29 PM EST

I wouldn't want to push the comparison (none / 0)

too far, but Brady is a republican.


by Mobar on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 02:34:50 PM EST
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Touchdown Kansas City! (none / 0)

I don't think that KC is going to win this one, but no way the Pats are going to cover the 16 1/2 point spread.

I live in Lee's Summit, and volunteered with the Obama campaign many times this summer.  Unfortuantely, I am a school teacher and get very busy this time of year...  I plan on taking the 4th off to help with get out the vote.

I know McCaskill won by keeping the margins down in out state, but I also remember the drama of counting the votes in KC and STL until late in the night...  In my opinion, the best shot we have is in massive voter registration and massive GOTV in KC and STL.  The ground game is what will count here, and my impression this summer was that we certainly had the resources to win it in MO...

Get out there and register new voters.  Make sure that others have their registration up to date.  

I don't think for a second that Obama is wasting time or resources here.


by elie on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 03:24:48 PM EST

Re: Touchdown Kansas City! (none / 0)

It's dangerously late for massive voter registration. Dumping a ton of new/changed registrations on the KCEB from here on out is a risky proposition.

OMG first and goal Kansas City!


by Mobar on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 03:43:12 PM EST
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Re: Touchdown Kansas City! (none / 0)

Finishing the thought - time spent processing new registrations is time not spent organizing and preparing for election day.

Dwayne Bowe has trampoline hands.


by Mobar on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 03:46:00 PM EST
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disappointing... (none / 0)

well, i guess it's a "rebuilding year.."

my point is that massive voter registration has been going on in MO since the primary and will continue until Oct 8.  My school in KC is having a number of Parents Nights with registration opportunities.  

The campaign trained volunteers in registration all summer.  Now these volunteers are registering voters in Westport on Sat night, at their church, in front of the Price Chopper, or in my case, with the PTA on Parents Night. If you just look at the events in KC on mybo, volunteers are using thier own expertise of MO to take the campaign into their own hands.  

The real trick will be in turning the hard work we have been doing into GOTV!


by elie on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 04:18:07 PM EST
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Re: disappointing... (none / 0)

There has been a lot of registration activity. There were registration cards on the counter at my hair salon! I thought we pushed the limit on dragging up new voters in 06, so it's great to see even more people energized to vote.


by Mobar on Mon Sep 08, 2008 at 12:14:20 PM EST
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Re: What Obama is doing in Missouri - a theory (2.00 / 1)

Missouri has a history of voting for the next president, and I expect that trend to continue this year..

I'd say that whoever wins Missouri, wins the White House.

Don't take the polls right now too seriously, Missouri's polls always close in the last weeks.


by njc2b5 on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 05:32:21 PM EST

Re: Obama in Missouri - a theory (none / 0)

And what if somebody in the campaign is just a little bit superstitious? You know, cross your fingers, wear the same glow-in-the-dark boxer shorts you wore on Super Tuesday, and try a little extra harder to win in Ohio, New Mexico, and Missouri. If Nancy Reagan can have an astrologer, let Obama have a couple of extra campaign days in Missouri.


by Woody on Mon Sep 08, 2008 at 02:33:47 PM EST
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Re: What Obama is doing in Missouri - a theory (none / 0)

I hate to say this, but as far to the right as the GOP has gone, the Dems will porbably have to become the Rockefeller Republican party by default.


by spirowasright on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 08:27:41 PM EST

Re: What Obama is doing in Missouri - a theory (none / 0)

One of the Obama goals is to strengthen our Party in all 50 States...even if He loses that State..
Thanks for this MO info.

My brother-in-law is a Baptist pastor in Independence.We never talk religion (they are sad they won't see my wife and I in heaven)and seldom talk politics. But my sister called yesterday concerned I might have been arrested during the DNC fest here in Denver. She indicated real interest in Obama and deep concern over McCain and even Palin.

Voting Democratic Prez would be a big step but one they are both seriously considering..

jist sayin'


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by nogo postal on Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 09:58:57 PM EST


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